Comments on: wading into the immigration debate http://terranovachurch.org/blog/2006/05/wading-into-the-immigration-debate/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=wading-into-the-immigration-debate Terra Nova Church Sat, 08 Sep 2012 13:49:17 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: Ed Marcelle http://terranovachurch.org/blog/2006/05/wading-into-the-immigration-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-137 Ed Marcelle Sat, 13 May 2006 22:39:00 +0000 http://blog.terranovachurch.org/2006/05/04/wading-into-the-immigration-debate/#comment-137 I was thinking about taxes and lebertarianism and the economic engine called freedom.<BR/><BR/>Besides that, I was wondering if anyone was reading the blogs. I was thinking about taxes and lebertarianism and the economic engine called freedom.

Besides that, I was wondering if anyone was reading the blogs.

]]> By: fussy1 http://terranovachurch.org/blog/2006/05/wading-into-the-immigration-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-138 fussy1 Fri, 12 May 2006 19:43:00 +0000 http://blog.terranovachurch.org/2006/05/04/wading-into-the-immigration-debate/#comment-138 Something on your mind Ed? Something on your mind Ed?

]]> By: Ed Marcelle http://terranovachurch.org/blog/2006/05/wading-into-the-immigration-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-139 Ed Marcelle Thu, 11 May 2006 12:25:00 +0000 http://blog.terranovachurch.org/2006/05/04/wading-into-the-immigration-debate/#comment-139 so...if we legalize 'em we can tax 'em. Interesting. I wonder what else that could apply to. Hmmmm. so…if we legalize ‘em we can tax ‘em. Interesting. I wonder what else that could apply to. Hmmmm.

]]> By: WarAxe http://terranovachurch.org/blog/2006/05/wading-into-the-immigration-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-140 WarAxe Wed, 10 May 2006 21:32:00 +0000 http://blog.terranovachurch.org/2006/05/04/wading-into-the-immigration-debate/#comment-140 On my mom's side it's fuzzy... but on my dad's side my grandparents came here from Armenia with nothing (actually, ocming from Armenia alive was quite an accomplishment in the early 1900's by any means). Absolute zero. They learned English and worked their tails off and got no handouts... and didn't even protest the fact! :-) On my mom’s side it’s fuzzy… but on my dad’s side my grandparents came here from Armenia with nothing (actually, ocming from Armenia alive was quite an accomplishment in the early 1900′s by any means). Absolute zero. They learned English and worked their tails off and got no handouts… and didn’t even protest the fact! :-)

]]> By: Ed Marcelle http://terranovachurch.org/blog/2006/05/wading-into-the-immigration-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-141 Ed Marcelle Wed, 10 May 2006 12:59:00 +0000 http://blog.terranovachurch.org/2006/05/04/wading-into-the-immigration-debate/#comment-141 nice, sam. miss you guys. glad you are still tapping into the terra blogsphere. nice, sam. miss you guys. glad you are still tapping into the terra blogsphere.

]]> By: sam http://terranovachurch.org/blog/2006/05/wading-into-the-immigration-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-142 sam Wed, 10 May 2006 03:02:00 +0000 http://blog.terranovachurch.org/2006/05/04/wading-into-the-immigration-debate/#comment-142 my people did it the old old fashioned way, they got on boats with guns took it from the native americans! i guess what i'm getting from this dialogue is that we all carry with us a story of how we got here. some glamorous and some not so. my people did it the old old fashioned way, they got on boats with guns took it from the native americans! i guess what i’m getting from this dialogue is that we all carry with us a story of how we got here. some glamorous and some not so.

]]> By: Ed Marcelle http://terranovachurch.org/blog/2006/05/wading-into-the-immigration-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-143 Ed Marcelle Wed, 10 May 2006 02:17:00 +0000 http://blog.terranovachurch.org/2006/05/04/wading-into-the-immigration-debate/#comment-143 Hmmm...if people like Taylor being here is the result of illegals, than i have to say, i should be for it. I have never known a better co-laborer in the work of ministry than Phil. I may give him a ribbing about being Canadian (which is a game- I have actually planned my escape route to Canada several times), but i would choose him on my team every time.<BR/><BR/>That being said, my people did it the old fashioned way, got a work permit, brought the wife over, had her give brith in America, and voila, instant US citizen. Hmmm…if people like Taylor being here is the result of illegals, than i have to say, i should be for it. I have never known a better co-laborer in the work of ministry than Phil. I may give him a ribbing about being Canadian (which is a game- I have actually planned my escape route to Canada several times), but i would choose him on my team every time.

That being said, my people did it the old fashioned way, got a work permit, brought the wife over, had her give brith in America, and voila, instant US citizen.

]]> By: WarAxe http://terranovachurch.org/blog/2006/05/wading-into-the-immigration-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-144 WarAxe Tue, 09 May 2006 04:42:00 +0000 http://blog.terranovachurch.org/2006/05/04/wading-into-the-immigration-debate/#comment-144 I'm with Sam and fussy1.<BR/><BR/>Any attempt to deal with our current illegals without dealing with the porous border is a farce. First get the border under strict control. Then while simultaneously dealing with current illegals reform the broken immigration bureacracy.<BR/><BR/>I'd be in favor of giving breaks to working illegals who have no (other) crimes on their records... but any illegal who's got a record who get the boot hardcore!<BR/><BR/>Also, nobody has mentioned the healthcare cost of illegals who usually have no coverage and show up to emergency rooms for their health care. California is struggling with this the most right now. I’m with Sam and fussy1.

Any attempt to deal with our current illegals without dealing with the porous border is a farce. First get the border under strict control. Then while simultaneously dealing with current illegals reform the broken immigration bureacracy.

I’d be in favor of giving breaks to working illegals who have no (other) crimes on their records… but any illegal who’s got a record who get the boot hardcore!

Also, nobody has mentioned the healthcare cost of illegals who usually have no coverage and show up to emergency rooms for their health care. California is struggling with this the most right now.

]]> By: fussy1 http://terranovachurch.org/blog/2006/05/wading-into-the-immigration-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-145 fussy1 Sun, 07 May 2006 01:21:00 +0000 http://blog.terranovachurch.org/2006/05/04/wading-into-the-immigration-debate/#comment-145 personally i would like to round up some of the "lawless" folks, and the system abusers that live here in the US, ship them out and keep the illegal aliens who just want to work and make a better way of life for themselves and their families. however, i also feel that there does need to be some sort of regulation on how many people are allowed to immigrate to the US. we do not have unlimited resources, we cannot (or will not) care for the poor and uninsured that we currently have. we need a way to ensure that the people who come to live here are able to make a way of life for themselves. but how do we do that? personally i would like to round up some of the “lawless” folks, and the system abusers that live here in the US, ship them out and keep the illegal aliens who just want to work and make a better way of life for themselves and their families. however, i also feel that there does need to be some sort of regulation on how many people are allowed to immigrate to the US. we do not have unlimited resources, we cannot (or will not) care for the poor and uninsured that we currently have. we need a way to ensure that the people who come to live here are able to make a way of life for themselves. but how do we do that?

]]> By: sam http://terranovachurch.org/blog/2006/05/wading-into-the-immigration-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-146 sam Fri, 05 May 2006 15:46:00 +0000 http://blog.terranovachurch.org/2006/05/04/wading-into-the-immigration-debate/#comment-146 Allow me to take on the role of BIG MEAN CONSERVATIVE! the fact is that we are a nation of laws. Of course, along with the law there needs to be mercy and recognition of individual cases. reformers should focus on law changes and government officials should be called on to enforce the laws on the books. wholesale amnesty for breaking the law is lazy. it takes work to look at individual cases and set up layered criterea for amnesty but it prevents lawlessness! In other words, you don't ahve to send everyone home but you do need to create a selection process for amnesty and youy need to make breaking the law more difficult through border security. Allow me to take on the role of BIG MEAN CONSERVATIVE! the fact is that we are a nation of laws. Of course, along with the law there needs to be mercy and recognition of individual cases. reformers should focus on law changes and government officials should be called on to enforce the laws on the books. wholesale amnesty for breaking the law is lazy. it takes work to look at individual cases and set up layered criterea for amnesty but it prevents lawlessness! In other words, you don’t ahve to send everyone home but you do need to create a selection process for amnesty and youy need to make breaking the law more difficult through border security.

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